Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sarvanas, thank you for joining me.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: Thank you for having me.
[00:00:04] Speaker A: For sure.
Well, yeah, getting this thing started, would you be able to give us a little bit about who you are and what you do? Exactly.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: Absolutely. So my name is Saravanaz and I am a Persian priestess, if you like.
I have been initiated into the art of Kundalini activation.
And this was something that happened spontaneously for me about five, six years ago.
So I ended up having a spontaneous Kundalini awakening. And I had no idea what was happening to me. I had no, no idea what. What it was. And later on, I discovered that not only is this a divine energy that lives within all of us, but there is a movement, there is a modality that actually works with this energy. So I also initiate people into the art of Kundalini activation. So I have a training academy with my business partner and we train people in becoming facilitators.
And I also do rapid transformational therapy, which is a mix of regression therapy, neuro linguistic programming, hypnosis, to get to the root cause of anything that is in the subconscious and to reprogram it towards whatever desire you have.
So with that combination, I work through the layers of subconscious emotional body and the energetic body as well.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: Amazing. Thank you for sharing.
[00:01:28] Speaker B: Pleasure.
[00:01:30] Speaker A: Excuse me.
So how would you describe what this Kundalini energy is? Maybe to somebody that has no idea?
[00:01:40] Speaker B: Great question.
Okay, so we are actually all born with this energy. Kundalini energy is inside every single human being. It's actually your life force energy. It's your evolutionary life force energy. Now, when you're in your mother's womb and you are being created and you are evolving from embryo to fetus, it is your kundalini energy that creates you and helps you evolve into the different stages in the womb.
But actually it becomes dormant once you're either born or in your childhood, based on many conditionings and programmings of society and culture and the works. And if it's your destiny to activate, reactivate this dormant energy in your system.
You are then able to evolve from Gary 1.0 to Gary 2.0 in this lifetime. Just like you evolved from the embryo to the. From the embryo to the fetus in the womb. So I want people to think of Kundalini as their evolutionary life force energy.
This energy is super powerful. It is our birthright, but it is also a purifying energy. So once it's awakened in the base of the spine, and it's usually symbolized as a serpent or a snake, and I'm filled with snakes, it's just.
It's just a way to honor the. The energy.
It starts to work all the way up your chakra points and it starts a purification process. That's its primary objective. To begin with, expansion of consciousness and purification of the body.
And within that, you are shedding many of your old ways, your identities, any stored trauma in the body, any unprocessed pain. All of this comes up to be healed and transmuted. And it's not a overnight process. It can take many years.
So this is why we work with the energy continuously and with the people that we initiate into being a facilitators or clients. We have a community to also support them in this process. Because it's a lot around integration as well. Because it can become quite chaotic when this energy awakens in your life because it starts to strip anything that is not of a high resonance from your life.
[00:03:57] Speaker A: I never heard it put that way.
It seems like how you described it.
It's the primordial energy, the primordial current of the universe that brought us here into this moment, into these bodies. And it's something we lose track of.
Something that we just kind of. We don't even. Most of us don't even know exists.
And your work is getting people more in touch with that energy and thus furthering the process of evolution.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: Absolutely. You just gave me goosebumps. Thank you for that summary.
That was beautifully articulated. Exactly that. Exactly that. So we are on a mission to connect as many people back to their divinity. It's a homecoming. And once you do connect to this energy, it does crack open your heart. It does allow you to have these higher states of consciousness. So we're moving away from separation consciousness and towards unity consciousness.
[00:05:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
That's an interesting way to put it too, is it cracks open our heart effort.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: I mean, life, the conditioning and the programming of the Matrix is designed in a way to make us close our hearts. Because they know how powerful we are when we are connected to our hearts. Our hearts, our. Are our centers. It's our. It's our soul's language. It's the way that we are able to really connect and tap into that unity consciousness. So everything is designed in a way to lower your vibration and close your heart to keep you feeling powerless, hopeless and helpless.
[00:05:37] Speaker A: Yep. Keep us at the lower chakras.
[00:05:38] Speaker B: Right, exactly that.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Now, what does the process look like?
[00:05:45] Speaker B: It's different for everyone, actually, which is what I love. I. I genuinely believe that Kundalini is magic manifested on this earth still to this day, after years and Years of working with the energy, Every time I see it's physically manifested in someone's body or I hear the stories of their experiences, I'm still in awe because it is magic.
So everyone's experience is different, but you may have seen or other people may have seen people spontaneously and involuntarily having these movements in the body once this energy is activated. But that's just one branch of how Kundalini operates. That's the way it manifests through the body. Many people go on astral journeys, they travel through dimensions, they have many visions, they go through their past lives, they meet their ancestors.
They have deep, cathartic emotional releases. They have full body energetic orgasms. They release lifetimes of pain and trauma and ancestral God knows what. So it looks different for every single person. But like I said, it's a process. And if you imagine each of us like an onion, as we peel one layer, more comes to the surface to be transmuted and to be healed. So there's no one shape fits all, but it's individual. And every session is different, every single time, for every single person. And that's what keeps it spicy and alive and so juicy.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: Ah, now what does the actual work look like? To be able to unleash the energy?
[00:07:18] Speaker B: Beautiful.
[00:07:19] Speaker A: It's also different.
Sorry, Is it also different for every person?
[00:07:24] Speaker B: No. So the. The actual sessions are structured in a certain way. So the way it would work, let's say you were to have a private session, you would come to me, we would sit down and we would discuss, like what you're going through, what you're feeling in life. Why is it that you're called to Kundalini in this time and chapter of your life?
And something that we do that kind of differentiates us from other facilitators or academies is that we first regulate the system, the nervous system, to open up the channels and to kind of bring us into a state of relaxation before we go into the transmission.
So we do some practices to activate and stimulate the vagus nerve and just bring us into that state.
And then you would lie down and you would close your eyes. We would do a short meditation and then I would begin transmitting the energy and playing music in the background to take you on a deep immersive experience as well. And your only job is to surrender.
And this is the only modality that works with Kundalini energy that does not use our will to. So it's not a modality that taps into willful practices, it's a practice that taps into Surrender. And what does that mean? That means that, for example, when you go to Kundalini Yoga, breath work, Qigong, tantra, all of these modalities that also work with Kundalini energy, we are willfully using our breath, using poses, using sequences to pull this energy up through the system.
Kundalini activation is different. You don't have to do anything. All you have to do is surrender and be open to receive. So if you like, it's the lazy man's way to experience a Kundalini awakening. Having said that, it's by the grace of the universe if you're not meant to open up the channels, if you are not meant to activate this energy, no matter how much I transmit the energy or how powerful the facilitator is, if it's not your time, it's not your time. So the difference, again, with that willful practice and the surrender practices, sometimes when people go to breath work or they try these Kundalini modalities and they're using their will, it's like grabbing a bottle of ketchup and banging the bottom of it to try and get it out. So it's quite forceful. And then sometimes people have these crazy, psychedelic experiences and say, kundalini is dangerous. Well, you're, you know, you're playing with fire. Kundalini energy is literally fire. Whereas with Kundalini activation, if it's your time, if it's your destiny, and you are meant to activate this energy and you come and you surrender deep enough, you will have the most expansive, mystical spiritual experience that will crack you open and crack your heart open. So that's what. That's what it can look like. And the transmission is usually an hour long.
And the facilitator will facilitate the energy through the body of the person, touching different meridian points and chakra points to start helping them activate the fire within.
[00:10:29] Speaker A: So the essence is surrender. I think that's really the essence of the whole path, if you want me to be honest with you. The whole spiritual path is surrender to be able to reach these higher states of consciousness.
But would you say that someone else is needed in that, or at least very, very helpful, a facilitator like you to do these somatic exercises to ease into the surrender a little bit better? You know what I'm getting at?
[00:11:02] Speaker B: Beautiful question. Yeah, I mean, I will give you an. I will give you an example. I never went to a session. I had a spontaneous Kundalini awakening. And it was frightening. And I felt very alone and I felt very isolated, and I didn't understand what was happening to me. And that in itself was a whole journey.
And I would have given anything for someone to have held a safe space for me to tap into this potent energy within me. So really, what we're doing here is creating sacred, safe spaces for people to be able to tap into their divinity and start creating that safety from within, to be able to allow this energy to start the purification and the cleansing process.
And technically, you don't need a facilitator. Technically, by the grace of God or if it's your time, this energy can spontane, spontaneously awaken at any point.
However, it's so beautiful to be held in a space with someone who's walked the path already, who's familiar with this energy and knows how to hold people through this kind of transformations.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's very interesting how you outline the willful practices as opposed to the surrender practice.
And I'm saying that because I've been through a lot of willful practices myself. I've done the whole gamut, the whole list of things.
And it does seem like you're batting the ketchup. It does seem like you're trying to force something.
Now, are you saying there's no.
There's no merit in that? There's no point in doing that? Are you kind of like going against the grain? Are you getting in your own way, Getting in the way of surrender?
Do you think the willful practices are there to show us surrender? You know what I'm getting at here?
[00:12:53] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I love your questions. They're all great questions. I am not against willful practices. I think the whole point of this Earth school is that we have free will and we get to exercise that free will. And every single time we exercise that free will, that opens either a new timeline or we get stuck on the same old timeline. So it's a very powerful thing to decide to use your will power to have these experiences and to tap into these modalities.
However, with something like Kundalini energy, that's an intelligence that has a complete ecosystem of its own.
It's like playing with fire. And if you're not ready and if it's not meant to, then it can feel a bit disruptive.
So personally, I don't enjoy having to hold my breath for a certain amount of time and pull the energy up and do all these things. If I can just lie down and receive, it's just, you know, it's. It. Surrender is so much softer. It's not as simple because we are as Human beings, we are conditioned to constantly be doing and we associate do doing with worthiness and achievement and success.
So the idea of just lying down and receiving and surrendering is unfamiliar for to a lot of people and it's actually quite uncomfortable. A lot of people can't do it initially. So Kundalini activation in itself is a practice of surrender. It teaches you how to surrender to life.
And I think that is the game changer because then you learn how to surrender to in other areas of your life and life becomes softer, easier, you find more alignment, you find more flow, you find more joy because you're no longer trying to go against or resist or you have certain expectations of life. You've learned to flow with life because you are surrendered.
[00:14:49] Speaker A: That's the name of the game is it's not only in the practices, it's not only during the sessions, it's you take that surrender into the goings on of your life. That's the whole point of this thing.
Exactly, yeah. Beautifully said.
[00:15:03] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:15:07] Speaker A: It seems too good to be true, doesn't it though?
[00:15:09] Speaker B: That's why I said it's magic. Honestly. Still to this day, I am in awe. Like, I can lie down and I can with my intention. The energy activates like that and it just ripples through me and just starts creating this beautiful movement and vibration and resonance in my system.
And I mean awe. I'm like, there is this energy living within me that's so powerful and so intelligent and knows me better than I know myself.
And yeah, it does sound like too, it's too good to be true until you experience that. You see, it's one of those things where still to this day we struggle, we struggle to articulate what we do when it comes to Kundalini activation. When people tell ask us, what is Kundalini? How does it work? Why are you doing this? It's really difficult to express in words something that needs to be experienced and is so spiritual and mystical to bring it into the tangible.
So really it's something that has to be experienced. And so many skeptics, oh, I love the skeptics that come in and they're like, yeah, all right, all of this. And you start moving like this. And then they have the wildest experiences and they're just like, I, I didn't think it was real. I thought it was performance. I thought it was all scam. And of course you would. The logic cannot comprehend it. And that's okay because our minds are limited and this is an unlimited, expansive energy.
So it's understandable.
[00:16:38] Speaker A: Yeah. That's the thing is the whole spiritual path, being acquainted with yourself, the higher states of consciousness, awakening, whatever you want to call it, goes beyond rational thought. It goes beyond our linear, binary way of processing the world.
And we want to try and figure things out. But this magical essence that we all hold is not to be figured out. It is just simply to be lived. It's just to be experienced. It's to just have run through you and just flourish from it. It's something that is actually magic. It really is. You just have to. You just have to surrender in order to feel it. And that's the thing too is it makes everything else magical. It's like not only like you feel magic because one. One may think it's like we're trying to get high or something. Right? It's like some kind of drug experience, which you do get high, but it also, it goes beyond that. It's like it makes everything else magic in your life. As in you don't do it simply for the experience. Like, you do it.
I mean, you do it because there's no other way. I think that's. That's another point. So you do it out of exhaustion of other things.
[00:17:50] Speaker B: But.
[00:17:51] Speaker A: But it. My point is, it's like it makes the entire life magical, at least from my personal experience. Like everything in my life, from being tapped in to myself has become dreamlike. I feel like I'm living a dream, living the dream. I'm living in some kind of miracle. And that's not something the mind can really compute. It always tries, trust me. My mind, I have many, many thoughts. But that magic, the throne of magic, is something that I always sit back on. You know, it's like something I'm always rested on.
I surrender into the magic and all the goings on in my life, all the stuff, all the mundaneness. Right. Because we all go through stuff in our life. I think you can probably attest to that. And this might be a good note to go on.
We're all going to suffer, you know, we're all going to go through it. We all going to.
We're all going to get old, sick and die, as the Buddha saw.
But sitting with this magic, this Kundalini energy allows me to like, process the sort of futility of the human condition a little bit differently. So it's like it makes even the mundane magic as well.
[00:19:04] Speaker B: Absolutely. I would love to hear a little bit more about your experience with Kundalini.
[00:19:09] Speaker A: Well, I mean, I've never specifically seemingly had a experience that you and many others have had where it was like one instance and then all of a sudden I see the light and I feel the miracle.
To me, it feels like a very gradual thing.
And sometimes when people explain it, I'm like, well, have I actually experienced it?
I'm like, I don't actually even know. But the fact that I can relate to you and speak on the same topics and I feel what you're saying leads me to believe that I have. But I had. I never had like a dawning, like. And all of a sudden one day I. I saw God. It was never really like that. I've done plenty of practices, let me tell you that I've done.
If you name it, I've probably done it in order to, you know, expand upon the energy that I have.
But for some reason, to me it seems like it was more of just like a day by day, gradual thing, getting more in touch with the energy.
So, yeah, it's rather unique because you and many others have explained to me this. Like all of a sudden, you know, it just. It came in. I never really had that, to be honest. I don't know.
Maybe it's still a work in progress, but.
Yeah, that's my experience.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's unique to every single person. Some of us are meant to go through the intensity of that in order to be shaped in a certain way. And for others, it is more gradual and softer and slower. So you can really relish in it and. And kind of enjoy steps. It's like a process, step by step. So there is no right or wrong. But. But I loved what you said. The fact that you can relate to what I'm saying and it resonates. That means we are both talking about the same thing. You understand when I talk about the magic, because you've experienced it in your own way.
So it's the same thing.
[00:21:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so.
I mean, I don't think it has to be like a. All of a sudden a dawning. Right. Like the clouds open and the, you know, the light shines down. I don't know. I don't think it has to be like that.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: No. And it's not. And it's not always the. The light shines, it's. The darkness comes, you know.
[00:21:30] Speaker A: Right.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: That's. That's also the other side of the coin. It's no love and light and rainbows and unicorns and, you know, butterflies. You have to go to the depths of your shadows with this work.
Kundalini energy is the raw life force energy like I said the evolutionary energy, but it's also known as the divine feminine energy.
And the divine feminine energy has been repressed on the planet for the last 2000 years by the patriarchy for a reason, because it's so powerful. And what we've been doing is functioning just through our masculine. The majority of people are in their masculine energy, but they've leaned too far into it, so it's become toxic masculinity.
And that's why we have so much war and famine and disconnection and separation in the world. The feminine's job is to bring that harmony and balance and healing not only back to the planet, but to each individual person.
So when we awaken this energy inside of you, we are awakening the divine feminine essence in every single person. And like I said at the beginning, we're all born with this energy, regardless of your gender. If I am a female and you are male, you will have masculine and feminine energy. I will have masculine and feminine energy. Like we have a right arm and a left arm. That's the way it works. And obviously across your lifetime, you learn how to kind of use certain aspects and traits of these energies for different things in your life. But, you know, in ancient Egypt, for example, someone who they viewed as spiritually enlightened was someone who was quite balanced in their masculine and feminine energy. And what we've done is we have repressed and caged the feminine in on the planet and in people, which is the Kundalini energy.
And this is why so many people have depression, anxiety, all these problems, problems dis ease in the body. Because the inner healer, which is the Kundalini divine feminine energy, is repressed. And when you awaken her, that's what the purification process is about. So she will take you to the depths of the shadows of the darkness to face all of those parts of yourself so you can integrate them. Because every part of you is sacred. Every part of you is welcome and holy. But we've again been conditioned and programmed to hate ourselves, to hate each other, and to.
To. To be disconnected not only from ourselves, but from each other. So when this energy comes online, it teaches you how to heal all parts of you, embrace all parts of you, and integrate all parts of you.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like the darkness is what holds the light.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: Exactly that. And, you know, the yin and yang sign, the black and the white is so interesting because when we do our trainings with our students, we always, because we go deep into masculine and feminine energies and, and how they work and how they should be used in life. And we always ask, so the yin and yang sign represents, you know, the. The dualities. Light and dark, sun and moon, masculine and feminine. And which one do you think is the masculine and which one do you think is the feminine? And 90 of the time, everyone says the black one is the masculine and the white one is the feminine, because they think feminine, light. And. And you know, she's. She's a light brow, but it ain't the black. The darkness, the shadow is the feminine, and the light part of the yin and yang symbol is the masculine because the darkness is the feminine. The purification process. So that's why, I mean, she takes you into your shadows. And one cannot exist without the other. They are complementary, opposing forces that need each other. And this is, this is the work that we're doing. So we're expanding the consciousness. We're awakening the divine feminine into people so they can start healing themselves from the inside out. And when we say opening their hearts so we can move into that unity consciousness.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Yeah, well spoken, Thanksgiving.
That's all it is. It's balance. Bringing a little bit of balance to the force.
We have been very unbalanced. Very unbalanced.
Yeah.
I was actually having a conversation about this the other day with somebody. I forget who, but it's in one of my talks where he said, what does it mean?
What was it? Hold on, let me take a second here.
Well, it was the same idea of what is the spiritual path all about?
And I said, I think it really just is about becoming in touch with our femininity.
That's it.
And I think it's just coming in touch with our body. That's what I said. I think the whole thing in a certain way is becoming more in touch with the signals and intelligence of the body.
Putting it very simply.
[00:26:32] Speaker B: Absolutely right, you're spot on. You're spot on. Because the feminine is the emotions, it's the body.
And yeah, the patriarchy have worked super hard to disconnect us from our own physical vessels, from this miraculous machine that keeps us alive and allows us to have this human experience. And especially mental have been disconnected from their bodies and their emotions for a reason.
Boys as little as a few years old are told crying is weak.
So you learn very early on to cut yourself off from your emotions. Emotions aren't safe to feel. Emotions shouldn't be expressed. I need to hold it together. Man up, you know, all these, these deep conditionings. And now it's so beautiful because when we have men come to kundalini activation and they Start crying for the first time in years and rele God knows how many trapped emotions in the body and they start learning, like you said, the cues of their bodies and they start having this deep appreciation for this vessel. And that's where the work is.
[00:27:40] Speaker A: And you know what it does too is when you become acquainted with your feminine energy as a man, it actually further exemplifies your masculine energy.
That's the thing. If you really want to become more masculine in an integrated way, in a non toxic way, what you have to do is become more acquainted with your feminine energy and then that is the balance and that is a very powerful being. You'll notice the people that we look up to, the men, I guess you could say that we look up to that are unique. Right. Musicians come to mind that are very unique in their creativity. They're also very feminine. I think about.
Right, Think about. I think for. I don't know why this is coming to my head, but like singers in the 80s, like lead singers of bands or just anybody really, they were very feminine. Like Robert Plant, he was a feminine guy, you know, but he also had the essence of masculinity and that is what made him, Robert Plant, the lead singer of Led Zeppelin, many other instances as well that I think makes a special, makes somebody special, a man. I'm speaking specifically, you know, if you're born physically a man, if you are integrated with your masculine and your feminine and you bring that into the balance, into your heart, you become a God. Or at least the potential is there
[00:29:10] Speaker B: that you're hitting literally nail on the head. This is it. And this is what I was just referring to. Back in ancient Egypt, spiritual enlightenment was that being who had integrated masculine and feminine, not pushing aside the feminine because she's seen as weak. But actually once you integrate her, you become more powerful. And the feminine is your inner healer. She's also your magnetism.
So you become magnetic to your desires, to the right opportunities to more flow, more abundance, more joy, more expansion in life when you activate your feminine energy. And it doesn't mean you're going to be crying all the time. You're going to be weak and you're going to be like a woman. No, you take the strength as well. But it takes a. Yeah, it takes a certain caliber of man to understand that, to embrace that and not to fear what it comes with, the labels and the associations that it comes with. So that was an excellent point and I couldn't agree.
[00:30:14] Speaker A: Thanks. Yeah, I mean that's what the powers that be definitely don't want us to tap into, especially as men, because there's something about, huh, there's something about the masculine energy that if we were. So how do I put this, what I just described, if that was multiplied by a million men, this would be a completely different world.
You know, if this was multiplied by a hundred million men, which still isn't even a lot of people, this would be a completely different world.
So that's what they don't want. They don't want men to come into their femininity because if they do, there's going to be a lot of powerful men. And the powers that be don't want powerful men.
[00:31:03] Speaker B: Exactly. They want to keep you small and in the cycle and trap of the matrix running on that hamster wheel. So this is why myself and my business partner who run the academy, we're so passionate about this work and we're like, we need to find. It's like, it's as if we're like in the X Men League and we're trying to find our people. So. Because we know they are the flame keepers, so every person that we initiate goes on to ignite that flame in everyone else and it spreads like wildfire. And that's what we're trying to do here. We're trying to awaken as many people to their feminine energy so they can become powerful and more conscious, so they can lead the lives that they were meant to lead. Like you said, a life full of magic and miracles. I'm not saying you're going to be exempt from the human suffering. Like we're. That's just life, right? That's, that's the polarity. You're still going to be human, but you will feel more superhuman. You will feel assisted by a greater intelligence and power. You will feel the power in your very body and you will feel like you're living with purpose, on purpose. And that's the difference. Rather than being stuck in that nine to five hustle and grind feeling soulless and feeling like there's no point of living.
So this is, this is the mission. We are trying to awaken as many people to their power and their divinity, which is the divine feminine, in this
[00:32:32] Speaker A: case, Kundalini mic drop.
[00:32:37] Speaker B: You set it up for me. To be fair, you set it up now.
[00:32:41] Speaker A: You.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I think it's back at you.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: Okay, back at me now.
Yeah, that was great. For sure. And that's the thing too, right, is when you surrender your will, you gain the power of the greater will of the will of God. And when God's on your side.
Oh, you got it. You're good.
[00:33:03] Speaker B: I am. Every morning in my meditation recently, something that's come to me is I've learned to surrender my free will to God because my. My will is, yes, it's mine and it's my birthright. And you know, I. I try and exercise at the best of my ability, but I'm so limited compared to what God said. Design is for me in my life. So I literally imagine a plug coming out of my solar plexus in the mornings. And then I imagine God's plug. So this is my will and God's will. And then I just connect it together and I just say, I just allow your will to flow freely through me. Show me how you would like to experience life through me today. Show me how you'd like to express through me today.
And this prayer, since I've been. Since I've been practicing it is just bought next level, magic and miracles, you know, because I know I'm led by, by God in, in every single thing that I do. And sometimes the guidance that I receive can go against logic and can be a little bit out there, but I know it's for the greater good. And again, because I'm so seasoned in practicing surrender because of thanks to Kundalini activation, I just don't question it anymore. I mean, my mind, my logical egoic mind will come and be like, oh, here we go. Like, don't even be stupid. Why are you being silly? And it's just like a cloud passing in the sky. Like, yeah, thank you for your opinion next. And then you just get on with it. So this is, this has been a game changer for me in terms of kind of offering up in devotion, my free will.
[00:34:41] Speaker A: I mean, it's the game changer. So it changes everything when you surrender to God. I think that's the goal for all of us, isn't it?
[00:34:54] Speaker B: Yes, exactly.
[00:34:54] Speaker A: Not that. Then I don't know what it is.
[00:34:57] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:34:59] Speaker A: Yep. And it's a continual surrender. It's a continual devotion. Every day, as you said, when you wake up, same thing with me.
Open my eyes and say, okay, I will be done.
What now? What next? And yeah, it doesn't always make sense. Sometimes it's like, sometimes it's still tough. Sometimes it goes against my own will of what Gary wants to do. The wants and needs of the body of Gary for sure.
But I don't know, once, you know, once you see it, you can't unsee it. And yeah, you can't not Listen to that. Because I ultimately know that causes suffering. Right. And I'm not perfect. I don't think I'm enlightened. So I mess up a lot. And I see how my mistakes affect me. And I don't listen to God. I don't listen to that higher intelligence. And yeah, it reflects in my life in ways that does cause suffering. So many lessons are still being learned. But if you follow the path, which I think is, as I said, the goal for all of us, if you follow the will, that divine will always at all times, I think it ultimately just leads to a better life.
Putting it very simply and very generally, it just leads to a life of less suffering.
That's what it comes down to.
[00:36:14] Speaker B: I completely agree. There is a massive difference between alignment and flow and resistance and tension. And I think many people haven't actually even experienced or don't understand, haven't been tapped into what flow frequency is.
Yeah, it's so effortless and so easy and it just feels yummy, like you just.
You're just being carried. Whereas when you're going against the grind, when.
And I actually was actually received this download the other day, meditation. I wanted to create a piece of content about it on social media.
It's standards versus expectations.
So standards are something that come from within us. So a standard is something where you may have a certain moral or ethic or value or a healthy boundary for your life. So, you know, I want to be in a safe relationship. I want a life that's fulfilling. I want a career that sets my soul on fire. This comes from within and it feels intentional and conscious.
Whereas expectations are from the egoic mind and they have been planted within us very subtly by the institutions of the matrix to keep us in this cycle of pressure. You must be married by a certain age. Oh, you don't have your own home yet. That's not. That's not very successful. Oh, you haven't hit this point in your career yet, or that's not very good, or you haven't got that promotion, how much do you earn? And so expectations create resistance to what is. Because life is just lifing.
The universe has its perfect design and its perfect timing. And when we can't see that and when we disagree, because the picture in our mind from our expectation isn't matching the reality that's in front of us that creates suffering. And that's from expectations and that's from the mind and that's from going against what is.
So this is the. This is the standards versus expectations. Flow versus resistance.
And when you look at that, I'm all for having healthy standards in life, but people need to look at consciously the things that you are living your life by. The rules and the expectations, are they from you? Are they from your soul? Are they from your heart? Are they standards or are they expectations that you have from watching Disney films, growing up, from the institutions like religion, media, culture, skill school.
So it's a really interesting kind of concept to look at with internally.
[00:38:53] Speaker A: That's some Buddhism right there.
Seriously.
[00:38:59] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: And that's also the shedding of the layers. We're shedding expectations of how we should be, of how other people think we should be.
From birth, right?
[00:39:14] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:39:15] Speaker A: It's been from birth.
[00:39:16] Speaker B: This is it. And you know what I. I've noticed the egoic mind has been trained and programmed and conditioned by the Matrix to judge everything, everyone, including yourself, and label everything. And again, that's where suffering comes from. Good or bad, right or wrong, you know, it's just constantly scanning everything and judging. And I love this kind of quote that. I can't remember the quote word for word, but something that Ram Dass used to say, and he used to say we need to look at human beings like we look at trees.
When you look at trees, you just appreciate trees for what they are. You don't think, oh, this one's a bit tall or this one's a bit short, this one's a bit fluffy, or this one's a bit bushy, or this one doesn't have enough leaves. You just appreciate every single tree for its individuality and uniqueness.
Why can't we do that with human beings?
Why are we so judgmental? Oh, he's a bit fat or he's a bit hairy, or she's a bit short or she's.
Where does that come from? Right? It comes from the expectations or the subconscious re the programmings. And I noticed recently I'm the same with animals.
Like cats. I'm obsessed with cats. And it doesn't matter if one's short haired or one's fluffy. One's got a fat face, one's got, got a very like feline sweet. Like it just. They're all just so sweet and special in their own way. And there's no judgment.
But why is there so much judgment when it comes to human beings?
[00:40:52] Speaker A: It's a good question.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: You know, so I'm. I'm practicing.
I'm practicing. Sorry, yeah, I'm practicing non judgment. And that actually starts with myself because I've been on a long Journey with self love and self worth.
And I noticed a few years ago, every time I would catch a glimpse of myself in the mirror, the first, the first thought was always the inner critic. Oh, you're starting to get wrinkles. Oh, look, you're, you're, you know, and it would always just come up with something negative or bad.
Something that made me feel not very good about myself.
And recently I was like, right, you know how you start baby talking with these cats every time you see a cat? You're like, oh my God, you're so sweet. You so beautiful. Oh, look at you. You do that for yourself. Every time you catch a glimpse of yourself in the mirror, you like, oh my God, you're so beautiful. You're so amazing.
Game changer. Because you're rewiring the brain. But we're told that we're not good enough. That's, that's the whole game that, like you said, the people in power don't want us to tap into this divinity, to tap into this power. And, and actually a lot of it starts with self love, self acceptance and just letting go of all of that judgment from within and outside.
[00:42:15] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the power of belief.
It changes everything.
And all of that belief of lack is so deeply rooted, as I said, from birth, from childhood.
It's so deeply in our unconscious that we don't even know we're doing it. That's the thing.
It's like, I think again, that's why we do what we do, so we can see that we can see what we're doing to ourselves.
And then, yeah, once you see it, it's a little bit easier to transmutate it. Transmutate how you see everything. But it's definitely not easy, that's for sure. We're, you know, following this path. We're sort of going against everything. We're going against the world, you know.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: Absolutely. You're unlearning everything, everything you have been taught. And it's like you said, it's, it's from birth, but it's beyond that as well because it's generational, it's in your very DNA.
It's in your nerves.
So you are kind of bought into this world already on the back foot. And you have to awaken and then unlearn everything.
Let go of all the illusions and the lies and then find your path home. But you know what, how badass is that? Like, we must be such incredibly advanced souls to a, have signed up for this to been like, yeah, I'll have a go at that. And you know what? Chuck on that trauma and yeah, Chuck on that obstacle and yeah, give me some parents that are unconscious. And so we, before we came, we must have, we must have seen Earth School as this big adventure. Like, wow, we get to have feelings. We get to get, get to experience grief and sadness and, and then joy and expansion.
And that always really helps me to put things into perspective when things become really dark and when I start feeling like I can't do this, this, this human experience is too overwhelming, I remind myself, okay, you're going into victim mentality. Let's step back. As the powerful conscious creator, you chose this. You chose every single element of it. And that feels a bit more empowering than why is this happening to me?
What is this trying to teach me? Or why did I choose this?
[00:44:42] Speaker A: Exactly. That's the big switch as you go from the victim to the hero. The hero's journey, huge, right, is to see that everything is happening for you. I mean, I'm pretty sure we've all heard that before, but here's the truth.
Everything is happening for us so that we can grow and grow into what?
I don't know, actually, who knows what we're going into, But I think it is more so inclined toward that selflessness. We're growing into servitude. We're going into being a beacon of light for others.
And then who knows where we go from there, you know, after this life. But it's going from, you know, me against the world to me for the world. You know, me with the world, me with this current me with the dao.
That's the big 180 switch that we, that we see, we feel and we integrate within our lives.
Yeah, Hallelujah to that. It definitely is an interesting journey, that's for sure. The hero's journey.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: Never a dumb moment, but you know, you have to be, you have to be conscious enough to make that switch. Because sometimes when you're in the depths of the darkness and, and it's painful, the existence is painful in that moment because the egoic mind is going on and on with the worst case scenarios and you feel like there's no way out.
It's super important.
And that switch can be instant. But to remember that that free will is there in those moments as well to be exercised. So you can go, I can switch the script. I can flip the script. It doesn't have to be like that. Like you said, it can, I can take a step back and, and choose to see this through a more empowering lens that life is happening for me.
[00:46:31] Speaker A: Exactly.
That's how you get hip to the script.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly.
[00:46:37] Speaker A: Different kind of script, though. You go from writing your own script to following the script of the universe you like. You go from trying to create this whole thing by yourself.
Inertia, really, to co creating along some other greater force and that is flow that is floating downstream.
Very subtle switch. It's very, very subtle. That's the thing. And from an outside point of view, might not look that much different, but from an inside point of view, everything changes.
[00:47:11] Speaker B: Absolutely. Recently I've been reevaluating my goals and my dreams and, you know, I'm human. It's the typical. You want this house and this career and this amount of money and all this stuff. And I sat down, I thought, yeah, this is all well and good, but if this isn't free and this isn't liberated, no matter how much money and houses and that other that you have, you're not going to be truly happy. So my new goal is to see myself through God's eyes.
That, like you said, game changer. Because I know many wealthy people that have many things and have success of what we think, you know, this world success looks like, but they don't have true happiness and fulfillment and peace. I think ultimately we're all looking for peace in our lives.
Whereas if you can see yourself and see the world through God's eyes, game over.
[00:48:10] Speaker A: Game over. You got it.
Exactly.
Yeah. That's how I see enlightened beings, is they're seen as God. They are God. I mean, that's why we call people like Jesus God or Maharaji or labels such as this, because their devotees literally see them as God looking at them. So I think that's the path for all of us is we have that same seeing. The only difference between the enlightened being and the unenlightened being is really like, are you always seeing it or not? Right. I think enlightenment is like, literally. I don't know. Right. This may seem like a rather naive statement, but I'm going to say it anyway. I think enlightenment is you're always seeing as God sees and it never falters. Right. You never go back into seeing the small point of view from Gary, and this is my little life.
Always you're seeing as God sees.
[00:49:13] Speaker B: That's beautiful. That, that. I think that is it. Ultimately we're constantly being pulled by the ego and it is. It's to see.
See yourself and see others as, of course, everything as God, because we're all unique Sparks of creation. We were all designed to be a unique flavor of the Divine.
But again, conditioning, programming of the Matrix tries to make us all the same. Like, if you're not like this, then there's something wrong with you. So people are scared of their authenticity.
People fear being an individual and standing out because they feel like if I'm like everyone else, I will be accepted and I won't be rejected, because one of the biggest fears of a human being is to be rejected out of the tribe due to just survival needs.
So to stand out in your authenticity and be like, I'm this weirdo and I'm going to embrace feels dangerous in this time and age. And, I mean, that can even go back to the witch wound. And we've got so many layers of this. But ultimately, if.
And I made a video of this one once, and I said authenticity is the highest frequency that you can emit as a human being. It's not unconditional love or gratitude, it's authenticity. Because when you're. When you're in your authentic power, that's God consciousness. That's God energy shining through you, but that unique flavor to you.
So ultimately, I think you're right. That's. That's the purpose. We're all here to shine that God consciousness that's coming through our individuality through this clear channel, as opposed to censoring it and filtering it.
[00:50:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And being like everybody else or somebody else that's come before you.
No, we all become our own Buddha. And that's exactly what God wants you to do. God wants you to be you. It's a little poetry for you right there. God wants you to be the unique puzzle piece that could only fit in your slot, that could only fill your role here. And that might not look like Buddha. That might not look like all the sages of the past. That might not look like putting on a robe.
Who knows what that looks like? But only you know, and only you're the one that could fill the role.
That's what we're doing this all for, so we can be authentically ourselves.
And what a world that would be if we were all authentically ourselves. Right. It would look like an alien world again, what the powers that be don't want us to tap into.
But once you know, you know, that's the thing.
Once you know that.
Once you know that, that is.
That's the essence. That's the truth of.
Of. How do I put this? It's like doing you, despite anything.
Right. Despite the danger that the mind wants to tell you you might be in doing you despite all that.
That's so sweet. That's so powerful.
That's Kundalini.
[00:52:27] Speaker B: That's a slogan.
[00:52:31] Speaker A: So sweet, so powerful. So Kundalini.
[00:52:33] Speaker B: So Kundalini.
That's it. That's it. Oh, if only. If only everyone felt enough to. To be as weird and authentic as possible. And, you know, when you look at the people that you are inspired by and you are magnetized towards, it's the ones that are fully them, themselves, right? They're just. They're authentic and that's their genius. And they're messy. And this is something that I've actually struggled with for a while because I was brought up in a way where perfectionism became my foundation.
And so you cannot show the chaotic, you cannot show the messy, you cannot show the untamed versions. And recently I went to a sacred sexuality retreat where we were doing a lot of dark feminine energy work. And I took Kundalini there, but I also went to receive.
And I'm still integrate. To be honest, I'm so grateful that today I was okay, because up until two days ago, I was. I was not okay. I was still in this deep integration portal and I was still processing. So much, so much came up and.
Oh, my God, to release the shame around sexuality for a woman is huge.
And to do that in sisterhood was so healing. And I was so taken back by this work that I'm. I'm looking at creating these containers with this particular facilitator who does this work. She is such a fascinating individual. She is a sexual trauma survivor that's turned her pain into power and now creates these sacred spaces for women to tap into their sexuality and liberate themselves from all this shame and all this guilt around. Around their. Their raw power.
And, oh, God, I'm going to bring it to my communities because I know how important this work is. You know, how we set about for men tapping into their feminine energy, it makes them super powerful. Well, for women tapping into their sexuality without shame and guilt, so potent.
[00:54:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. That is the foundation of our power is our sexual energy.
And if you're not utilizing your sexual energy in the right way and transmutating it, you're not going to have power. That's.
That's everything, right?
It all stems from our sexual energy. And I think that's where the trauma comes from in our childhood is conditioning us into guilt around sexuality and into shame and things of that nature so that we don't Embrace it. But once you embrace it, that's when you become godlike. That is the essence of Kundalini.
[00:55:19] Speaker B: This is it. Kundalini is life force. Evolutionary, divine, feminine, sexual energy.
It's your creative life force. And why do you think porn is free?
[00:55:29] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah, I mean, that's like step one. I mean, if you really want to step into your godhood, stop watching porn. That's what I gotta say to everybody.
[00:55:36] Speaker B: Oh, my God, watch porn. That could be a whole podcast episode by itself, like.
[00:55:40] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:55:42] Speaker B: People need to wake up to and realize the things that are legal and free are for a reason. They are cages. And especially for men, to be not harnessing and cultivating their life force energy, their sexual energy, their seed, and to be releasing it every single day to things that are just so demonic. It's like that is the way to keep you in that cycle.
[00:56:10] Speaker A: Yeah, that literally is the way. Like, that is the number one way. And I'm not exaggerating of how they control us is through our sexuality.
[00:56:19] Speaker B: Absolutely. And. And this guilt and shame that you touched on.
So when we look at the spectrum of human emotions and the vibration that each of them emit if we go up to the top and we have authenticity, gratitude, love.
So we're emitting really high vibrational energy when we're in those emotional states.
The lowest of the low in the spectrum of human emotions is guilt and shame.
So let's take the most powerful, potent energy in the world that's inside every single human being, which is your sexual energy, and let's make sure that it's riddled with the two lowest vibrating emotions on the planet.
Yeah, genius. Really?
[00:57:07] Speaker A: Genius. Yeah, in a heinous way, it's genius, but genius.
Yeah.
Yeah. Man, you gotta wonder where this all comes from. Because it seems by design, doesn't it?
[00:57:17] Speaker B: Oh, my God, it's so deep. Like every time I try. And it's just so deep. The layers, they have been orchestrating this for eons, it feels like.
And that's why I'm saying how powerful are we that we're waking up? They're poisoning our food, they're poisoning our water, they're poisoning our air. They're literally poisoning everything. They're trying to kill us.
All of it. All of it. And every turn, they are trying to either kill us or numb us or distract us or over stimulate us or whatever.
[00:57:45] Speaker A: Well, really, I think it's too.
Yeah, exactly. But I really. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. I think it's to enslave us well,
[00:57:53] Speaker B: yeah, to harvest our energy as well. Because it's. It's. Yeah, totally, but it's. But it's also killing people. Right. It's like, I. I genuinely feel like people are addicted to these things. Whether it's processed food, alcohol, drugs. And when I say drugs, I don't mean plant medicine. I'm talking about the kind of drugs that do. And pharmaceuticals, all these things. So this is slowly killing the body and, like you said, enslaving people.
And it's so deep. It's so deep. But again, once if you go down that rabbit hole, it starts to feel scary and like, oh, my God, I can't even. It's too overwhelming. So then again, going back to that empowered lens.
Flip the script. How powerful must we be that they are trying so hard and doing so many things to try and enslave us, kill us, numb us, distract us, over, stimulate us?
We must be ridiculously powerful. We. I just. That's. We just need to realize that. How much power we possess.
[00:58:55] Speaker A: Yeah, so much. There's so much potential for humanity.
[00:59:00] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:59:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
And that's the good news is no matter what they.
The powers that be, try to do to us, to distract us, essentially, you always have the power. No matter what.
No matter what happens. That's the thing. No matter how much we go into the Matrix, you have the power, that power of consciousness, the power of Kundalini.
That's the miracle.
[00:59:30] Speaker B: Indeed. And you always have the choice. It always, for me, comes down to two different frequencies. Love, fear, expansion, contraction.
And you just. And it can be as simple as that. And you will know where you're operating from. Like you said, no matter what's happening in the world, no matter the distractions and the circuses that they're creating out there, are you in a state of fear and contraction or are you in a state of love and expansion? And you can choose your free will. And there are so many tools that we can tap into to change that frequency because we are only human, you know, and we have this nervous system. So it's not hard to scare us and it's not hard to keep us on alert. However, that is where these tools and techniques and modalities and guidance and mentors and communities come in. And we can use our free will to tap into these powerful practices to bring us back into a state of regulation, back into a state of consciousness, back into a state of love.
[01:00:34] Speaker A: Hallelujah.
Yes.
I think that's a good note to wrap this up at. I feel like we came full circle to be honest with you, we could go on and on, but I think, you know, this was a nice full circle moment and we talked about everything we needed to talk about.
You can choose now. That's the beauty. We all have the power to choose now, to choose ourselves, essentially. And yeah, it's definitely hard. It's definitely a wild world that we are currently incarnated in, but it's very easy to tap in as well. Like with this technology that distracts us.
It's also a double edged sword where you can utilize it to your best ability to really flourish if you want to. To do things like we're doing right now, where.
Listen to what you're listening to right now. You know, we have so many tools at our disposal, as you mentioned, to become the God that you were supposed to be, you know, to tap into your true essence and your authenticity.
You just have to be able to use it effectively. That's the thing. So I thank you for allowing me to use it effectively today because I feel invigorated.
[01:01:47] Speaker B: I do too.
[01:01:49] Speaker A: I feel enlivened.
Do you have anything else you want to say before we stop recording?
[01:01:54] Speaker B: I just actually, when you just said about the technology, one thing that we do say about Kundalini is it's an ancient technology within the system. So when you said that, it just clicked. It's also something.
It's one of those things where it has many names and we've mentioned a lot of them on this call. But ultimately we have this ancient technology within our system that once it's awakened, like you said, you cannot unse. See and you cannot go back. And there is only one path forward. And you will be assisted and you will be guided and it will be worthwhile.
But you have to just believe and surrender.
[01:02:33] Speaker A: That's it.
Amen.
Well, Sovereign house, thank you for joining me today.
[01:02:38] Speaker B: Thank you so much, Gary. It's honestly been such a pleasure.
[01:02:42] Speaker A: For sure. You have very elegant energy.
Thank you. I don't know why elegant is the word that came to mind, but yeah, you have very elegant energy, very strong energy as well, and warm, all at the same time, all three of those mixed into one. So I appreciate you bringing that energy today.
[01:02:57] Speaker B: That's a beautiful compliment and I receive it with gratitude. Thank you so much.
[01:03:03] Speaker A: All right, well, thank you again. Peace and love, everybody.
That's it, y'.
[01:03:08] Speaker B: All.
