Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Getting this thing started. Would you be able to give us a little bit about who you are and what you do exactly?
[00:00:05] Speaker B: Well, I'm so many things.
A weirdo, probably first and foremost. You know, one of those people that has all these weird thoughts in their heads and this. This weird idea that we can create a. A world that actually works for all of us and includes all of us. But my co creator of Access Consciousness and which it's.
It's about accessing the consciousness of you. It's about using the consciousness that's already within you to create the miraculous life and living you always knew was possible.
And as part of that, I created something called International Being you Day.
But for me, I'm. I'm just a dreamer. You know, John Lennon said, I may be a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. And so as far as I see it, my job is to go through the world, get as happy as possible, get over as much of my own stuff as possible. So I'm not putting my stuff on anybody else. But also give people the tools they need to create the miracles they know they're capable of.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: Beautiful.
All right, so let's go down this route. How do you say we access this consciousness?
[00:01:18] Speaker B: Well, we gotta recognize that what we've been presented as reality, quote, unquote. And I put that in quotes for a reason. Because we look around us and we live in a world that seems to be based on judgment. And there are a lot of things that we just assume are the nature of reality itself.
Yet if you do any exploration, conscious, spiritual, quantum physics, you find out that everything is the opposite of what it appears to be.
And so it starts with a willingness to let things as they were, become more malleable.
Because we spend a lot of time holding on to the things we've experienced in our past, as though that determines our choice for future.
And it doesn't have to. We've just been conditioned that it does so to a really dynamic degree. It's letting go of the conditioning. But one of the primary elements of that is letting go of judgment, of us and others. Because anytime you judge something, you're stuck with that judgment. Whether it's right or wrong, good or bad, doesn't matter. And there's a world beyond judgment that I think those of us that are seekers, you know, looking for consciousness are actually desiring to give ourselves permission to access and live from. You know, we have a definition of consciousness and access consciousness, which is where everything and everyone exists and no one and nothing is judged. So That's a great starting point.
[00:02:51] Speaker A: I like that a lot.
Wow. Okay.
Now, in a pragmatic sense, what does that look like? Is it meditation, self inquiry? What would you say?
[00:03:03] Speaker B: Yes, yes and yes. But so for me, it's got to be pragmatic because, you know, I spent years in workshops in, you know, and. And while I was there, everything was wonderful. And then I would go back to my life and it was like all the same stuff was there, but it seemed like it was even amplified now, now that I had more awareness. And so I'm a big believer in giving people pragmatic tools that they can use to use in the trenches of life.
Because it's. It's really about the quality of our lives. You know, this.
Any. Any journey that we might be on for more is fundamentally about increasing the quality of our lives. The joy in our lives, the ease and. And the sense of it being and having an exuberant expression and abundance.
And so on a pragmatic level, there. There are so many things. It's like, you know, give me a topic. And. And they're. They're more specific things for.
For certain areas of our lives or a certain subject. For example, one thing that might be a great place to start is to recognize that we are like big psychic radio receivers.
And this is just applied quantum physics, basically. And it's interesting. If you go to the far end of quantum physics, it starts to approximate consciousness.
And the one thing they're missing in quantum physics is consciousness, because they won't acknowledge that every element in the universe has consciousness.
And if they would. If they would add that one element. And there was a physicist I heard recently talking about it. I wish I could remember his name. But if they would add that one element, that every element in the universe has consciousness, all of quantum physics ties together and it's like, oh, boom, there you go. But basically, so we're.
So one of the elements that can be really helpful is to recognize that 98% of our thoughts, our feelings, and our judgments are things we're picking up from other people.
They're in the field. We perceive it. So we start vibrating like it. You know, we're like big tuning forks, except we don't just have one vibration. We have, in essence, an infinite number of vibrations. And when the vibration of people around you is at a certain level, you start vibrating that way. The vibration of the world is a certain level, you start vibrating that way. And so one way of giving yourself some freedom to disconnect from the downer world vibe that has been going on for so long is to ask, who does this belong to? Is this mine? You know, let's say you're in the middle of fear or stress about money or, you know, this sense of anger, sadness, any of the wonderful playground of crap we get to play with in this reality. You just go, who does this belong to? Is it mine? And if it lightens up at all, if the sadness dissipates even a little, it means at least part of that you're picking up on, you're not the source for. And you start to find that we're not the Source for about 98% of the stuck stuff in our lives.
We've just been picking it up ever since we were conceived. And nobody's ever taught us, hey, what if this isn't yours? What if you have a different choice? And what all of the tools of access consciousness lead us to is actual choice? Everybody else may be going as lemmings off the cliff of insanity.
What choice do you have? And are you willing to make that choice, recognizing that your choice to be lighter, your choice to be a light in the world. And by a light, we're not just talking the absence of darkness, we're talking the energetic of a lighter perspective.
A space where everybody else is doing contraction, if you can recognize it. That alone is one of the greatest gifts to all of us and to you personally. Like, you start to realize that what we thought was where we need to take on people's pain and suffering to change it. That doesn't work. Maybe once again there's another choice.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: Well spoken.
Yeah, that's the big 180 switch, right? Is we go from being at the whim of the world in our environment to creating our environment.
And yes, that is very, very quantum.
[00:07:25] Speaker B: That. And that really is the, it's the crux of, of all of it.
That one, like you said, it's the 180 degree turn right there. There's a, one of the other tools of access is everything is the opposite of what it appears to be. Nothing is the opposite of what it appears to be.
And you know, you hear that and it's. We call it the crazy phrase because you, you're, you know, you go, you know, you short circuit for a minute. But if you're in the middle of doing anything, that's, that is a pattern you've been doing forever. You know, everything is the opposite of what it appears to be. Nothing is the opposite of what it appears to be four or five times. All of a sudden you've just given yourself space outside of that pattern for a moment.
And all we require is we. We keep thinking that there's one choice to rule them all. There's. There's one choice I'm going to make that is going to set me free.
Oh, no, no, it's. It's billions. Okay, let's say thousands make it easier for people to digest. Thousands upon thousands of choices that create more freedom here, more freedom here, more freedom here. And what happens is so another tool, if I may, is what's true for us makes us lighter.
A lie makes us heavier.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:47] Speaker B: And what is lighter? Lighter is like when you're hanging out with great friends who don't judge you. Lighter is like when you look forward to the day ahead because you're going to get to do something awesome or just because you actually love your life. Imagine that as a concept. Lighter is like when you're out in nature, you know, and you can start to sense. You can start to hear the birds and you hear the individual birds and you notice the different colors. And lighter is just where it's like, okay, cool. Where it just lands in your world where it doesn't feel. And heavier is like energetically, you know, when you crush an aluminum can, which is where a lot of us have been taught that we need to take those things that are these crushed aluminum cans and somehow rebuild the can in a different way.
So what's true makes us lighter. A lie makes us heavier.
If we can start to choose more of those inputs that create more lightness in our world, that's us choosing what is uniquely true for us may not be true for the person next to you, but it is true for you, you know, so if there's like, I don't know, certain music that you love to listen to and, you know your mate hates it, makes you lighter may not make them lighter. You know, your. Your penchant for acid jazz may not be my thing, but. But if it brings you lightness, it's something that energetically contributes to you uniquely.
The more tiny choices and large choices, the more, let's say, the more choices that we make for lightness, the lighter and lighter our lives get over time.
And from that sense of lightness, what we're doing is we're breaking the pattern that makes us continue on the same track and actually giving ourselves a sense of space that allows us to perceive the world differently. Because when you have a sense of space, you perceive differently than when you're in that sense of contraction.
[00:10:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that just brings up the Word that we've all heard, Enlightenment. Just think of the etymology of it in light. You are in light.
Yeah, I think that's the essence of it. You are just lighter. Right. It's this flow state that one feels. I feel it's intuition. Like it's connected a lot to my intuition. It's just apparent, right. There is like a automatic yes or an automatic no that leads the way through that levity.
You know what I'm getting at?
[00:11:18] Speaker B: So true. And that.
And I want to address that so people might.
I want to put an exclamation mark in that automatic yes or automatic no. Because it's in that moment our awareness comes to us knowing. You know what you would call intuition? I would call knowing. And same thing. Same thing, different word. But our knowing is like a feather touch.
It occurs in a split second, a moment. And we think somehow it's supposed to be like a big brick or a big, you know, shouting of the universe at us.
But in actuality, our knowing is like a feather touch on our cheek.
And if we're willing to follow that, things turn out miraculously, they don't turn out logically. And unfortunately, our logic has really gotten in the way of our knowing. It's also gotten in the way of our happiness because logic is a function of judgment most of the time.
[00:12:09] Speaker A: Feather touch. Yeah.
[00:12:11] Speaker B: And it's. It's interesting because we've been.
And this is all conditioning. It's. See, so for an animal, for example, they have to follow their awareness or they get eaten or they die. You know, and animals all over the world follow the feather touch of knowing.
But it's also because they've never learned to judge. They don't think, you know, Descartes idea. I think, therefore I am. I have a different point of view. I think, therefore I am an idiot. You know, if we can, you know, thinking is stinking from my point of view. If we can get over our thinking, therefore we get over 98% of our judging.
And so when it comes time, for example, one of the questions I get asked all the time is, how do I know what to choose? And I'm like, well, I can tell you, but you're not going to believe me. And you're going to have to practice till you see that this is true for you. And people are like, that's fine, tell me. Okay, so think of a choice you have. It could be large or small. And my suggestion is practice with really small choices because they're not significant enough time where you're going to go into thinking about it. And, and this is, this is the whole crux of the matter. We make something significant and relevant, and then we think about it, and then we go into fear, and then we go into doubt, and then we go, oh, man. And. And now we're stuck, right?
So a great tool to know what to choose is, if I choose this, what will my life be like in five years?
Now, a lot of people, even in having these conversations, people are like, oh, but I thought you would give me a tool that made sense to my mind. I'm like, no, the reason this works is because it doesn't make sense to your mind. Your mind can't figure out five years. That's too far for it to project its tiny, limited version of judged reality into the future.
So for something like, okay, if I go to this restaurant, if I go on this date, what will my life be like in five years?
Now, what we're looking for, and the beauty of this is we're tapping into our energetic awareness, which is our knowing, which intuition, which is also our intuition.
And one of the choices usually, and you can, you know, different choices have, have different perspectives and different ways they show up. But let's say somebody asks you on a date, you go, okay, if I go on this date, what will my life be like in five years? Now, this is not about you projecting, oh, we're going to do this on the first date, and then we're going to do this on the second date, and then we're going to get married, then we're going to have kids, and we're going to. No, this is trust the universe and your consciousness.
See, consciousness also indicates total awareness beyond judgment. Once again, access consciousness. We have a definition of consciousness where everything exists and nothing is judged. Where your infinite knowing can exist without judgment, your infinite perceiving, your infinite receiving, which is what's required to have money, love, great relationships and happiness, and your infinite being.
So everything exists without judgment. And you can tap into it with this one simple question. What will my life be like in five years? So we're not saying what will my life look like? Because one of the other traps we get into is believing that look like is a valid tool for awareness.
No, we're. We're going. Before that, we're going to the direct engagement with the energetics of the situation.
And your awareness and consciousness is awareness. Your awareness is a being and the awareness that consciousness will give you if you allow it to be on judgment of what this will be like.
So you ask, okay, I Mean, you could also go back and, and imagine yourself asking before something that you chose that turned out one way or another to give yourself some practice.
Sorry, my ADHD is strong, let's put it that way. So let me try to stay on the track I was on. Okay, so you're getting asked out by somebody, might be for coffee, might be for a date. What will my life be like in five years if I choose this?
And what will usually happen 99% of the time, they will have a different sense of space or contraction. It'll have a sense of, ooh, this is gonna feel like being out in nature, swimming with the dolphins, hanging out with my best friends.
Or this will feel like hanging out with the judgmental part of my family that hates me at holiday time. Okay. You know, and so what you're looking for is that momentary, that flick of your, on your cheek of. Is it lighter or heavier? Basically, does it create a sense of expansiveness where I, I, yeah, I'm, this is great.
Or a sense of contraction where it's like, ew.
And this one thing, if you choose to use, can be a tool for everything in knowing what to choose.
And so I say that and it sounds really simple and, and it doesn't quite match the cognitive stuff because we think if we're going to get new information that's actually valid, then it should have some flavor of the old information.
But we've had the old information. We've had ancient wisdom forever. That's why we call it ancient. And it's created the fucked up world we have. So why don't we try something new? You know, let's go on a different adventure. If ancient wisdom actually worked, we would live in a different world, maybe wiser, but. So anyway, I have a bit of a charge on that. You can tell.
[00:17:42] Speaker A: Well, you know, there is truth in the ancient wisdom. I just don't think people know how to interpret it in the correct way. And that's the problem. It's the error of man in man's mind that twists it, you know, man's.
[00:17:55] Speaker B: Mind, I would say, is the single greatest problem man has.
[00:18:00] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:18:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:03] Speaker A: And this intuition that we're speaking of is a higher mind. It seems, it's like a higher intelligence. It's precognition.
Yogananda calls it the subtle whispers of intuition. And I like that. It's like it's a whisper. And if you're not quiet enough, if you're not still enough, if you're all in your head and thinking about the past or the future. You're not going to hear it. So, yeah, it's like we have to get out of our own way, get out of our own mind to be able to hear those subtle whispers.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: Truly. And that is exactly the description of it. It's a subtle whisper.
And there's a when. When we talk about the higher consciousness or higher awareness.
Even in that one phrase, we're suggesting that we are somehow a lower consciousness or a lower awareness, but we're not. We are that consciousness and awareness. We just refuse to consider that that could even be possible because we think we're people.
Well, yeah, I don't know about you, but I really enjoy beings when they're being.
I'm not a big fan of people being people. Y. You know what I mean?
And that can sound like a judgment. And that's the other interesting part that we also have to get is because you have an awareness of a negativity or a limitation doesn't mean you're judging.
We think judgment is looking at bad stuff and seeing the bad stuff.
What if that's not true? What if everything is the opposite of what it appears to be? We think we're judging if we see the bad stuff. And bad is a judgment. Okay? We judge it as bad.
And we think we're not judging if we only see the good stuff.
And this right here is the trap of any seeker in the world. Because they don't want to judge, but they've been taught if they see where somebody is selfish, they're judging. Oh, my God. I'm judging them for being selfish. Oh, I'm judging that person for being mean.
What if you're not? What if you're just aware that they're selfish?
See, the ability to be aware of that with no judgment is one of the greatest gifts we can have.
Because when you're not willing to be aware of it, you'll be interacting with somebody who's selfish. Not acknowledge it because you think you're just judging. That can't be awareness, because anything negative is a judgment. And then they're selfish with you and they take from you, and then you're upset because they took from you. Except you. You had that momentary flash. This person is selfish.
So if you have an awareness without a judgment, you can go, oh, that person is selfish. Okay, cool. Now I know how they're probably going to interact with me. But if you're not judging, they don't have to interact that way. They can interact in a totally different way. But you are the space where they can Be different because you're the one acknowledging it, but you're also the space where you're not being taken advantage of.
And so one of the other elements of this is to be willing to have awareness for awareness sake, not believing that anything positive is not a judgment and anything negative is a judgment.
Instead, let's recognize that everybody has what would be called positive and negative aspects.
Not one of us is perfect.
And what consciousness means. You can be aware of it, but you don't have to judge it. You don't have to separate.
And it's a. It's a freedom that we almost can't fathom. Because if you chose that, if you chose to see the good, the bad and the ugly, and all it was to you was an interesting point of view, you'd be free of one of the greatest sources of suffering in your life, which is your interaction with people.
You'd be in this thing called allowance. And there's.
Once again, I have a tool for that.
There's actually a way of getting there if we choose. And I also want to say, it's like in a conversation where we're just introducing this stuff and we have our time on the podcast to talk. It's like, I can present page one of an encyclopedia with these things. But what I want to do is I want to give people a sense that there are ways of getting to where you desire to go that are far easier than you ever imagine. They don't. They don't. You have to do the work.
But I'm a big fan of doing the work and having it create massive results because you're willing to do the work. Not. I put in 20 years of meditating and I still want to kill my kids. You know, it's like, like, dude, you know, I'm like, okay, if you put in 20 years with this, it's like you change every perspective you have.
Anyway, so the tool for getting to that place where we're not doing judgment is to choose something called allowance.
And allowance is where everything is just an interesting point of view.
Point of view, okay? And you can think of it as the famous Russian just an ipov. Everything is just an interesting point of view.
And if we choose to do this, it's so first thing, coming back to the beginning of our conversation, the first thing is for us to make a choice. Okay, I've got this going on. Am I going to sit in my rightness?
See, we do rightness and wrongness so we can be right. We do either one. Some people do their rightness as I'm right and you're wrong. Some people do. I'm wrong, therefore I'm more right than you who thinks you're right, which is. Here we go again with the mind. It's so much fun to navigate, okay? But what we can do is we can look at a situation that's not working, okay? Remember, what's true makes us lighter. A lie makes us heavier. So we can be in a situation with somebody, and it has heaviness to it.
So the other thing about this is it's the antithesis of spiritual bypassing, okay? It's. We're talking about total presence with everything, but with no judgment, which is a crucial element, because presence with judgment is not actual presence number one. But also presence with judgment gives you the yuck. Stuck and. What the F. That rhymes with stuck and. And. And, you know, and you're in this place where you don't know what to do, but you don't know what to do because the construct you were approaching it from is one of judgment.
And judgment always sticks us, and judgment is always a lie. Judgment is not true for an infinite being.
So there's the theoretical of it. So let's go to the practical again.
So you want to try this and see if we can create some change?
[00:25:02] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:25:03] Speaker B: Okay. So, Gary, is there something or someone.
It might be even more beneficial if it's about someone where there's something, some interaction you have with them where there's still sort of a yuck in your world.
[00:25:17] Speaker A: Hmm.
I mean, off the top of my head, I can't think of anything, but there's got to be somewhere in there.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: Exactly. Okay. So.
So this may or may not work for you and. And for me if I can. If I can show somebody with something real rather than. You know, we get a lot of theoretical in our lives.
And I'm a. Like I said, I'm a big fan of the pragmatic, like creating change in the moment. So. Because once you see something real change, then you know it's possible.
And all we need is a tiny crack in the door, you know, of possibilities, to start exploring that universe of possibilities.
So I'll do this with. So is there something that's in your world that you have some sort of angst or upset or contraction about anything at all?
[00:26:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:26:06] Speaker B: Okay. So I'm gonna ask you to do this for real, and we'll see if it changes anything or not. Okay? Okay. And I'm totally happy if it doesn't. Also, it's like because this may or may not be the thing to use to change it. Because I got about 8,000 other tools also, but so get that upset. So everybody listening. I'd like you to get some yuck stuck or what the f you have in your world about something, because those energies sit with us. You know, it's like. And they. They live with us. And you carry it forward into the next moment. Like what? That's not a kindness to us anyway. So I'd like you to get the energy of it, and I'd like you to just go, interesting point of view. As you're connected with the energy. Interesting point of view. I have this point of view.
Cool.
Now, usually it shifts a little bit or maybe a lot. Who knows? So whatever is there now go and just be present with it. Just lower your walls and barriers. Are you present with it? No longer avoiding it, no longer thinking you can't deal with it or have to stay stuck in figuring it out. This goes beyond figuring it out.
So just get the energy that's there and go, Interesting point of view. I have this point of view.
And now notice as your mind might want to be like, hey, I'm stepping in here so I can understand and figure out, just go, interesting point of view. I have that point of view. To your mind, okay, and now with whatever energy is there, go, Interesting point of view. I have this point of view.
Interesting point of view. I have this point of view. Interesting point of view. I have this point of view.
So did you notice anything occur?
[00:27:41] Speaker A: Yeah, spaciousness.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: Yeah, that. That's us. That's. That's an example of what's true. Makes you lighter.
The other is holding on to something that's not true for you.
And here's the crux of so much of what we live with is when something occurs that is not true for us, what we'll do is we'll solidify it, we'll hold on to it in the hopes that we can figure out the lie in the future and let it go.
Now, if you look at how many years you've been on the planet, how many days you've had things come up that weren't true, that were heavy, and you think how much backlog you probably must have of all of these things.
Well, this is a way of changing it in the moment when it comes up. But it will also change every thing like that that has that same flavor to it, you know, because certain things that stick us feel like other things. They might be different, but they have a similar thread or a Similar center or a similar part to it. Okay. So let's do one other part to this for the people where they're upset involves someone else. Okay. Because there's once again a.
You know, I used to say, if there were no people on the planet, I could be happy all the time. You know, it's like because. Because we do stuff with people because we care so much.
And the expression of that caring has often been, let me get stuck with you. Let me align and agree with you. Let me understand you so I can help save you.
We can't save anybody else, but we keep trying to. Okay.
[00:29:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:25] Speaker B: So if the upset was with somebody else, here's what I'd like you to do now. Get the energy of whatever is still there, because there may still be some there, and just go, interesting point of view. They have this point of view, okay. And then it'll usually shift and then again to whatever's there. Interesting point of view. They have this point of view.
And then again, interesting point of view. They have this point of view.
And at this point, you might notice something different again.
And now here's the one that if we choose, it will really create even more change.
Get whatever energy is left and just go, interesting point of view. I have this point of view that they have these points of view.
Interesting point of view. I have this point of view. They have these points of view.
Interesting point of view.
I have this point of view that they have these points of view.
Everybody listening let out a collective sigh. That was pretty cool. How was that for you?
Good.
[00:30:31] Speaker A: Definitely spacious again in, like, weight lifted off of my shoulders.
[00:30:36] Speaker B: Cool.
And that. That really is what all of this work that Access consciousness is and everything I do is about, is that lightness that let's lift the weight off of our shoulders in real time. Because we've got a lot more contribution that we can be than carrying around all this baggage that isn't changing anything for anyone.
[00:31:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
What I got from all that is no more victim orientation, that we love to be the victim. Right. This person did this to me. They said this to me. And you try to change them or change how you. How they said it to you. You know, you want to change the whole situation of what happened to you, but really it shifts to.
For you. Right. Would you say that is the. I mean, might be a cliche kind of, but would you say that is the reorientation of perspective in this whole thing?
[00:31:37] Speaker B: Oh, I say, brilliantly put.
Exactly that.
And we. Here's like you were saying, we fight it's it's so interesting to me because so I've been doing this work for 25 years. And what I've gotten to see, you know, I've worked with hundreds of thousands of people around the world, and we have the same shit all the way all around the world, you know, and, and what's interesting is how often we will fight for our own victim position.
[00:32:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:06] Speaker B: And the weird part about victim is when someone is doing victim, whether it's us or somebody else, we're actually victimizing others and using it to control.
And yet, if you look at the world, see, that's, that's the energetic perspective, which for me is also the conscious perspective. They go together. It's like directly being able to engage or see what is.
Rather than the lie our mind is telling us because we, we keep getting stuck when we go to the lies our mind tells us. But the victim thing, we are victimizing others and using it to control.
And that's a, that's a, that's a, like a.
That's a bright, shiny object. A lot of people. Well, actually it's a dark object. A lot of people don't want to give up because they think it's their power.
And, and that's an interesting thing to, to get somebody over the hump of believing that that way of being in the world that they think is giving them control, getting them to recognize that the one they're actually controlling is them from having any other choice.
[00:33:16] Speaker A: Wow.
Yeah.
That's powerful.
[00:33:19] Speaker B: That's a thing.
[00:33:23] Speaker A: Wow.
And true power really comes from this vantage point that we're speaking on.
And it's power beyond the colloquial sense of power. You know, it's not like power of dictating the will of others. Right. That's the classical definition of power. It's some sort of empowerment that goes beyond that. Maybe you can describe it a little bit better, like, what is power to you?
[00:33:46] Speaker B: Oh, so glad you asked. So when I'm talking about it, I make a distinction only for this reason between power and potency, because power in this reality is exactly that. You know, the, the ability to control the will of another.
And, you know, if you have the most money or the most guns or, you know, whatever, then you have power in this reality. And the potency that we have, though, is the ability to have total choice.
The ability to empower others with choice and the ability to not have a judgment or a point of view about anyone's choice.
And from there, you know, the. Like you, you mentioned Yogananda and that quote, unquote, guru perspective. So I think if you talk to Yogananda, he, yes, he would have called himself a guru because that has a different meaning in his culture, et cetera, et cetera. But he would have been there going, just like Jesus, going, hey, you will perform far greater acts than I like. Be you, bro. You know, and. And so many of us desire to be a contribution to other people, and yet we've grown up in this world. That tells us that the only way you're going to affect other people is by having the money and the this and the this and the this. Except potency is each of us has the ability to broadcast a light, to be, to not. We're not even trying to broadcast it when you're, you know, people will come from miles around to watch you burn with enthusiasm, but also to see you burn with potency and no judgment.
We seek at least the Seekers of the world. Oh, by the way, roughly 50% of the population is seekers, and the other 50% are really happy with things like war and judgment and destruction.
And the weird part is we keep trying to.
It's almost like they're literally two different species. One who is very happy with status quo.
They judge. They know they're right. They know everybody who's not them and not agreeing with them is wrong.
That's about 50% of the population, and we think they are the majority because they just yell and scream louder than anybody else.
Then there's the other 50%, the seekers of the world that, if you've listened this far in this podcast, I'm talking to you, okay, who believe somehow that they're lesser beings because they don't know how to judge. They feel like they don't get this reality right. Yeah, they would like money, but they don't really care. They would just like their lives to work out. They'd like everybody to have greater. They don't know how to accomplish it. They feel totally lost. They feel bad if they have anything and they can't give it to everybody else. And so if you can recognize, stop trying to use your potency to change. People who have no willingness or desire to change.
Be the change you wish to see in the world. Yes. I'm not the first one to say that.
You know, be the change you wish to see in the world and then see who is drawn to it and nurtured by it and supports and contributes to it and be willing to support and contribute to them. And the people that want to detract from it. Realize they're not on the same plane you're on. They're just a different, they got something different going on. You can think of it as a different species, if that helps. But recognize that not your monkeys, not your circus, not your problem.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: Yeah, that's good.
[00:37:36] Speaker B: And there's a potency in that.
[00:37:38] Speaker A: Oh for sure.
And in that power too is a sense of invulnerability to the craziness and lunacy of the world.
So it's like the world can keep doing, it's just, it's circus act, but you are fine tuned in this potency to, I mean, do whatever you want really. And it's like in the world and not of it. Right. Ask Jesus about that.
[00:38:04] Speaker B: Yeah, that so well put. I want to, since you mentioned invulnerability, I want to mention the space that that actually comes from and can be created from, which is actually vulnerability, which is interesting because, you know, I say it and you and probably a lot of people listening get, get a sense of the energetics of what I'm talking about.
But you know that thing I said before? Everything is the opposite of what it appears to be. Nothing is the opposite of what it appears to be. So for almost every concept that would set us free, this world and reality we live in has a way of twisting it into something that makes you not choose it because you think it will diminish you.
Vulnerability is a huge one. Vulnerability's actual definition or meaning is when you're there with no walls, no barriers, nothing to prove, nothing to make right, nothing to make wrong, no one to make right, no one to make wrong. You're like, hi, I'm here. I wonder what's possible.
And we, we believe that in order to protect ourselves we need to put up, or we've been taught, I should say, in order to protect ourselves from the world around us, we need to put up these walls and barriers. But every single wall and barrier we put up is based on judgment, based on a point of view of what we need to protect ourselves from and who we need to protect ourselves from and the energies we need to protect ourselves from. But would an infinite being need protection?
No. And so here we are. And so another idea, our point of view creates our reality.
Reality does not create our point of view. So when we buy into this point of view that we need to put up walls and barriers to protect ourselves, that's the experience we have.
And then we go, see, I knew I needed more walls. And then we build the walls higher. Except who's the One trapped behind the walls. We're the ones trapped behind the walls of judgment we erect. But if we can be vulnerable, vulnerable would be like, hey, I'm coming on a podcast. Hi.
You know, and. Or, hey, I'm going out on this date. Hi. Hey. I'm gonna talk to my husband. Hi, I'm gonna talk to my wife. Hey, I'm going on this date. I'm meeting someone.
Hi.
Not. I've got my pre programmed, structured whatever. And I've got all kinds of things I need to hide from the world. It's like. You know what? It's. It's not where you have to go and air all your dirty laundry. That's not what it's about.
It's about you don't hide from you and you don't have to hide any part of you from anyone. Yeah. That is the space where you're truly invulnerable to the world by being vulnerable.
[00:40:47] Speaker A: And that's love, man.
[00:40:48] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:40:52] Speaker A: And I feel it so strongly when I'm in the presence of somebody that is on that wavelength.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: Quite rare, but when I feel it, I feel it.
[00:41:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:01] Speaker A: And, yeah, man, it's, as you said, potent. There is just this, like. It's like a pull into them. Right?
[00:41:08] Speaker B: Yeah, it's.
[00:41:09] Speaker A: Yeah, it's real. It's real. That's all I gotta say. It's what we're talking about now, what we've talked about for the last 40 minutes. It's all real. You know, to somebody that doesn't know any better is trying to overanalyze what we're saying. It may seem like this fantasy. It's just like two crazy guys just trying to put on a show here. It's like, no, this is 100 real. And I feel that you feel it, Dane.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And vice versa. That's part of what makes this conversation with you so enjoyable.
[00:41:36] Speaker A: Well, thanks, man. We're just reflecting real. Recognize real.
[00:41:41] Speaker B: Exactly.
Now, here's the other interesting part is on a very fundamental level, we've been conditioned to believe that reality occurs where two or more people align and agree on a point of view.
But in order to align and agree on something, it's got to have a positive and negative charge.
So when we were doing that. Interesting point of view. I have this point of view. What we're undoing is we're undoing our alignment and agreement, which is the positive polarity, and we're undoing our resistance and reaction, which is the negative polarity. And instead we're being there in vulnerability. And in interesting point of view.
So by its very nature, the very nature of what we call reality can only occur. And this is part of the reason why probably some of your listeners have felt like they're nuts. Have felt like they're alone. Have felt like nobody gets them because they have awarenesses or they have desires that nobody else can seem to get.
And then they feel all alone because the nature of reality. So when you said this is real, I totally agree with you. This is what's actually real.
And yet what we have been conditioned to believe in the world we've grown up in is that reality occurs. Something is more real. The more people who say yes.
And we see that all the time, you know, with trends and with viral stuff and all this. It's like, oh, enough people have said yes. It must be real.
[00:43:19] Speaker A: Yeah, dude.
[00:43:21] Speaker B: Not our brightest choice, you know. And what that ends up creating is this.
This adherence to the lowest common denominator. Of what people are willing to perceive and be.
Well, what if those of us who desire more were willing to recognize that the power you have when you choose consciousness.
Is 10,000 times what somebody choosing unconsciousness or anti consciousness contributes.
So, and, and in certain people's worlds, this, this. They might think I'm trying to create a separation. I'm. I'm not. I'm trying to. Trying to acknowledge that your choice for more consciousness, less judgment, more vulnerability, more vulnerability, more creativity, more joy.
Actually has a far greater impact than somebody's choice to align and agree with the latest trauma and drama and suffering.
And I just want to put that out there because, you know, if it were in a class, we'd be having a bit of a lengthy conversation right now. Where we wouldn't just talk about the pieces that came up. We would clear them and change them. Because we have this thing called the clearing statement. That allows you to change your fixed points of view from the present.
That actually go back and change the past once again.
Consciousness and quantum physics playing really well together.
But I just want to acknowledge that. Keep going. You know, if you're somebody who. Who thinks you're a dreamer. I want to say again, and it sounds cliche, but you're not the only one. And your choices for more lightness, more joy are a gift to all of us who desire it too.
And one other thing.
There's an element of quantum physics that I don't remember the.
The wording for.
But let me just say it this way. When, when you are willing, we've each gone on a unique life path every single one of us. And when you walk that path and you make different choices when. When you open up a space for a way of doing or being something different that's actually greater, you make it easier for the next person to come along and do that.
So let's say you heard this conversation and you heard the thing about victim and you're like, dude, I've been doing that everywhere.
Hopefully you can laugh at yourself because that's also, you know, a space of freedom and non judgment. And let's say you go, okay, and you make the choice, let's say in the next few months, to get over functioning that way. What you do is you make the path infinitely easier for the next person who desires to get over being a victim.
And that's part of how we contribute to each other that nobody talks about because it's not quantifiable, but inherently we know it. And this is the thing about knowing.
Knowing goes beyond thinking.
Knowing is instantaneous. You can know things you've never been taught.
You can know things beyond reality.
And to the extent that we can acknowledge that, number one, our knowing exists and it's not a function of our thinking goes far beyond our thinking.
And to the extent that we can start embracing that we have known things that we weren't supposed to know, but we did, and that's actually valid, then we can start exploring from that place of having that level of awareness that goes beyond a reality of judgment and recognize that we actually know elements of what could create a reality of possibilities for us and everyone.
[00:47:11] Speaker A: Okay, I think that's a good note to wrap it up at, to be honest with you.
[00:47:16] Speaker B: Cool.
[00:47:17] Speaker A: I know I could talk to you for a lot longer, but that's like full circle right there.
That was beautiful. You're on Fire today, Dr. Dain.
[00:47:28] Speaker B: Thanks, my friend. Much appreciated.
[00:47:31] Speaker A: Yeah, thank you for joining me. I mean, do you have anything else that you want to say though, before we wrap it up?
[00:47:35] Speaker B: N. I would just. Just one quick thing. What if you truly being you, are the gift, the change and the possibility this world requires. And would you consider making the demand?
2026 is going to be the year that I start actually being me.
Not from cheese, but from the acknowledgement that being you is probably far greater than anything you ever imagine. And what if now's the time?
[00:48:02] Speaker A: The time is now, yes.
Dr. Dain here. Thank you for joining me today.
[00:48:10] Speaker B: Gary. Thank you so much. It's been awesome.
[00:48:12] Speaker A: I feel it, man.
Got me pumped.
[00:48:15] Speaker B: Cool. Let's do this.
[00:48:17] Speaker A: 2026, 2027. 20, 28, and so on, you know?
[00:48:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Let's go.
[00:48:24] Speaker A: Let's go. All right. Well, thank you for joining me again.
Keep up the awesome work, and I wish you all the best, friend.
[00:48:30] Speaker B: Thanks, my friend. You also.
[00:48:32] Speaker A: Peace and love, everybody.
